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| nannham |
Posted: Sep 29 2009, 02:29 AM
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Indigenous houses crumble as they await repairs By Sara Everingham for PM More evidence has emerged of delays to Government housing programs for people in remote communities, with some houses in Aboriginal communities uninhabitable because of a lack of repairs ...
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| King Llyr |
Posted: Sep 29 2009, 08:29 AM
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Problem is that many of the aboriginal (but not all)
have no respect for what is given to them, houses have been built for them for many years and within weeks of them being built they are smashed apart, either by hand in drunken rage or the cars are driven into them just for fun. No one should be without a home but if there is no respect and continued deliberate damages are done, why should more be built? |
| nannham |
Posted: Sep 29 2009, 08:43 AM
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This is what I have heard. But why have they been trashing their houses? If I had a new house I would take care of it, I would be so happy to have it. -------------------- Nan
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| King Llyr |
Posted: Sep 29 2009, 08:49 AM
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Yes nan, but the general public appreciate what they are given and in many cases give help back to the community, many of the aboriginal (but not all)
simply say, "Fu**in white fella sh**, who need dis sh**?, I be pull it down and make a fire, is alright, the fu**9n white fella build me another one anyways ay bra" and that is the general attitude, up north from here there was a $400k local community health center built, with basic equipment, they stole everything out of it and burned the building and then cried out "Why do we get any help?" |
| MaggieMay |
Posted: Sep 29 2009, 01:59 PM
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You know that for a fact, do you King?
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| King Llyr |
Posted: Sep 29 2009, 02:11 PM
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Yes, fact, I did work in the area of the health center built,
I have seen damage caused to homes first hand, but as I did also write, many "But not all" I have also seen and heard aboriginal elders clearly state to the public, "We belong to the land, not the land belong to us" but we still have the land rights complications going on, also; I have seen first hand, if an aboriginal is found guilty of an offence, they are given the opportunity of "Tribal punishment" or "White fella law" in great majority the aboriginal will go "White fella law" if they go "Tribal law" they are made to stand still and have a hunting spear thrown at them, the spear thrower is very acurate and never misses. I grew up in aboriginal community, I do have an understanding of what they want, need and what they are capable off. I don't say this in a nasty bite back way, but it is what I know. Also, details of my wifes Great Aunty Jessie Litchfield. http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A100107b.htm |
| MaggieMay |
Posted: Sep 29 2009, 04:27 PM
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You've seen the damaged houses so I can't argue with that except to say I've seen houses trashed by white people as well. I know you said 'many, but not all' which implies that it's most of them with a few exceptions. Wouldn't it be fairer to say 'some?' There are both black and white people who have no respect for the housing and other benefits that are given to them. That doesn't mean we stop helping those in genuine need.
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| King Llyr |
Posted: Sep 29 2009, 05:43 PM
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No, we should not stop helping those in true need, but at the same time, the white person does not get houses built time and time again at no cost to him,
and yes, as you point out, my words are wrong, it is not the majority but is some, it is only a handfull that give the rest a bad name. I spent many happy times in the Pilbara region of WA, beautiful people, our daughters ex claimed to be of aboriginal blood, (ha ha) I have more in me simply by living within their community, he would complain at how lazy they are, how they bludge from centerlink and get everything for nothing, but, he was throwing our daughters belongings out on the street and smashing it, we called the police and when they arrived he threw his arms in the air and told them to f*** off from his land, if they touch him he will claim police harrassment against aboriginal, I'm Black" he said, f*** off my land. |
| Gwynne |
Posted: Sep 30 2009, 12:22 AM
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We need to find a way to change the welfare mentality, which is common in this society. Why can't the government provide the materials and let people do their own repairs? Find a way to let them take charge instead of waiting for someone else to fix things.
A while ago there was an article about how terrible the Housing Commission was in this state, one woman has been in her government-provided home for more than 40 years and they've never updated her kitchen for her. She had FORTY-THREE years to get off her backside and do something about it herself. A tin of paint was impossible for her? She lived all her adult life in a home with very little rent to pay, and she wanted everything done for her? Another woman was complaining that there'd been a problem with the drains at her home for more than two years. Two years and she did nothing? People in remote communities are waiting months for roof repairs? Why can't it be made possible for them to be more independent? |
| King Llyr |
Posted: Sep 30 2009, 07:57 AM
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We also know of a woman in Dubbo, who was the street gossip, lived there about 20 yrs in house commission, she collected everything she looked at, rubbish on top of everything and everything on top of rubbish, complained endlessly about the holes in the fibro walls outside, the dept wanted to do a complete inspection to do all repairs, she would not let them in the house because of all the mess, you needed to be a mountain goat to get from one room to the next, because of the mess, german cockroach and mice she would not let them in and so they could not inspect and do the works, but she continues to complain.
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| Cossack |
Posted: Oct 1 2009, 06:17 AM
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YEP Have 3 missions ( not my word) around my area and every so often there is a demolition derby in the area, weather it be tribal or alcohol fueled, BLOODY SAD -------------------- You can LIE to LIVE
But never LIVE TO LIE |
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| dadssk |
Posted: Oct 1 2009, 09:02 PM
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Yep, we all know people who have trashed their houses, White people and Black people, It isn't just a aboriginal thing
I used to live in a street where a aboriginal family lived, their house blended in with every other house, It wasn't the aboriginal family who made everyone's life hell, It was the white trash who partied 24/7 and threw things over our fence, yelled out obscenities, and where every party ended in a fight. The aboriginal family were like every other family in the street. Good and Bad are found in every race of people, I'm white, but I would be horrified if the aboriginal family put me in the same basket as my trashy ex neighbour, just because I'm white -------------------- But By The Grace Of God Go I
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| King Llyr |
Posted: Oct 2 2009, 08:00 AM
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Point I am trying tomake is simple,
white man and local aboriginal both cause trouble, but when it comes to housing, the local aboriginal get houses built over and over again and they don't have to pay unless they live in a town or city, they do the right thing and pay thier way, but out in the local aboriginal communities they don't have to pay rents, also it is known that the housing is not your average 3 bedroom house with the best of materials, and this is because of the continued damages done, but a white man cannot get a new house built without paying for it either by way of insurance and continued mortgage payments or rents. |
| King Llyr |
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 07:36 PM
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One last thing just to top it off,
Why is it that indigenous people are allowed money grants when what they are doing is making millions? The music rock band Yothu Yindi were entitled to grants even though they made big dollars. |
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